sentencing. he was 19 years old and now he s dead. there s no excuse. there s literally no excuse to be made by this case. all right. all these young men in this fraternity are treated as adults. is there any sort of i mean, in the old days they had the universities had a house mother at these fraternity place. but is there any sort of responsibility that to the parents, anybody, you know, this hazing probably isn t a big secret. this particular fraternity had a history of inappropriate conduct, elicit drugs, excessive alcohol. they were already in a lot of trouble and i think that s why the d.a. has charged the fraternity itself with having committed a crime. now, when you ask if there was an r.a. or maybe like a frat mom, no, there wasn t they had inside the fraternity house, security camera videos. they actually had security