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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180123:19:50:00

witness, you can t supervise the case. i know that not every line in the law is that clear, but this one seems that clear to me. now, rod may be privy to stuff we just flat out don t know. but from where i sit, where i s a witness and he should recuse himself. frank, thanks for sticking around with us from the 1:00 p.m. hour. do you have an idea of why rod rosenstein would still be in the position he s in? i think chuck raises an interesting point and it may be the reason why rod has not yet been interviewed, they re saving this for timing purposes and perhaps perhaps the strategy to somehow wrap up one component of the special counsel investigation and then say that rod can move off of that supervision but i see this as a dilemma. he s becoming a fact witness. you ll recall that he received a draft letter on the firing of

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been interviewed yet. there may be some russians that are still within the purview of the special counsel in the united states that can cooperate that can talk, i would not be surprised if we see russians indicted this year by the special counsel and that component is something we just can t forget about. let s also not forget this all started with russia s attempt to interfere in our 2016 election and it seems like not much is being done to stop them from interfering in 2018 or 2020. this president has called this entire investigation a hoax. lots of breaking news this hour. frank, barbra and chuck, thank you guys for joining us and helping us sort it out. that will wrap things up for me. chris jan sen will pick things up right now. there s two major headlines developing right now involving the special counsel s office and its investigation into russia meddling. we are expecting reaction from the white house at this hour.

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get rid of bob mueller. that is exactly why we appreciate you. you talk about the law. you don t get into the politics of it. you re very clear on what you can offer and what you cannot offer and that s what makes you a great guest. frank, wrap all of this up for us. we ve been talking about this for the last hour, we ve got james comey interviewed by the special counsel jeff sessions, what is going to happen next? so clearly the special counsel inquiry is moving along at an excellent clip but i don t think anybody should have expectations that it s about to wrap. i know barbra brought up the whole russia side. let s not forget what s at the heart and that s getting to the bottom of russian meddling into our elections and i think we re going to see this year a real hard look by the special counsel at russian individuals, russian hackers who have already been identified. we talk about people who haven t

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a good answer on that from the justice department but many legal experts i talk to on a daily basis have said to me it s only a matter of time. rosenstein has to be interviewed, he has to tell what he knows about that crucial decision and what he knew about donald trump s state of mind and why the memo was drafted the way it was, and at the point that that happens, he will have to recuse himself from supervising the mueller investigation. after all, he approves the budget, he decides what directions mueller can and can t go in within reason so you are absolutely right, that decision many people believe is coming to a head. chuck rosenberg, barbara mcquade and frank felluzzi are with me as well. how can rod rosenstein still be overseeing this investigation if he s going to be eventually going to be interviewed by the special counsel and if he did have a hand in the firing of james comey? i think ken is spot-on in his analysis here. it s been a mystery to me for awhile now. i have ha

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