the dung of the devil and keeps people in poverty. thanks to capitalism, line spak spaens have inclined. yet he says materialism is destroying the planet. prop francis wouldn t come here to debate me. he was busy. joining me is father jonathan morris. good friend of mine. i understand i m talking art your bos, which sun comfortable, but he ll been railing against capitalism, progress, technology, when it s given millions hope and dinner. the pope did not come the reason why pope francis did not come tonight for this was not because he was busy, but he was terrified. he should be. of you. he knew that i don t mind losing because i m humble. and therefore that i would come in his place. right?