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i ve never been in debt in my life. i d just cut back on food as well, if i had to. i d have a tin of soup and a roll. and, you know, hopefully, that would warm you up. today s rise is the largest single increase in the price cap, but most experts predict another is on the way injanuary. frances reed, bbc news. i m joined now by heating expert and founder of the heating hubjo alsop. thank you for your time today. your background is in boilers and heating, how to use them efficiently. heat homes efficiently and more cheaply. as i discussed with a guest earlier, when you are looking at an 80% plus rise in your bills, it is going to be nigh on impossible to make the sort of efficiencies that could make up the difference. it efficiencies that could make up the difference. , ., ., , , difference. it is going to be very difficult, difference. it is going to be very difficult. and difference. it is going to be very difficult, and i difference. it is going to be very difficult, and i think

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