she sure did. i mean, it was just extraordinary that he would be willing to take on these figures who were family friends, to say nothing of, you know, the iconic former president and former first lady. nobody took on nancy reagan. let me tell you as someone who tried and failed. you just did not do it. so mike was just fearless. and that instinct that made him just go for it full blast always until the last 60 minutes broadcast that he did at 89. and he acknowledged his frail tees, his depression. he lost a son, david. and he had a son, chris, who has had such a stellar career. and i knew chris wife, mary yates, whose son briefly worked here in this very newsroom at the beginning of his career, just going through college. so there are so many roots it s a small family.