nobody likes this policy. i hate to say it, that s the law and he s enforcing the law. i don t think you have to justify it. welcome to the second hour of caycie d.c. with me on set white house reporter for the l.a. times and msnbc political analyst hee lie stobells and chairman chief strategist for hillary clinton guy cecil and white house correspondent from mcclatchy newspapers fra s franco ordonez. i want to start with behind the scenes what s going on at the white house. could you see there steve bannon and kellyanne conway aren t defending what is happening. but at the same time not saying it should be stopped. there s a difference between bannon and kellyanne conway. b the president said this is the