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resources, the same amount of money that the private elite schools have, yes we would be just as successful. martha: is it about money, though, bill? we spend more per stew den in this country than any other developed nation, bill kurtz, so is it about money? martha i don t think it s necessarily about money. i think it s about expectation and about quality. and i think every child in this country deserves the opportunity to go to a great school with great teachers, with great principals and i think we in this country have to step up to the reality that every child doesn t have that opportunity today and we need to change that. martha: you know, ted the accusation is that the unions protect bad teachers. we all know the good teachers, we love the good teachers and respect them and we re so glad to have them. but the teachers who are not good and who are protected by tenure is the system that is failing us, no? well there are over 3 million

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