bernie? that s a very important question. i ve written several books, not to mention columns on my website about liberal bias in the media. but i ve always argued that in a free country, we need a strong, credible mainstream media. people need to believe it. we don t have that. that s not good for donald trump, that s not good for liberals, that s not good for conservatives. we need to believe what they tell us and right now, bill, a big chunk of the american electorate don t. bill: here is my impression so far. i think donald trump is entirely comfortable engaging this way. i would dare suggest he enjoys the battle. and i don t think we ve really had a figure like that before. so does that change the calculus in any way and the way
probably that long anyway, maybe he should just go do the revised extreme vetting for people coming into the country either as refugees or as immigrants and go on with the rest of his agenda. bill: you lay out interesting options there. let me try to squeeze in two more topics. kelly ayotte, is the chaperone for judge gorsuch on the hill. some democratic senators were critical of him because they believe he was taking shots at president trump when she said the following chris last hour. the judge s comments were not about a specific case. they were more generic about comments from any source that do not go to the merits of the case. bill: this is not about the travel ban, then. i think, you know, just to be clear about that, i mean, this is something that could potentially at some point go to the nation s highest court. judge gorsuch has been very careful in each of the meetings
judge gorsuch is doing very well and to a certain degree i think his comments distancing himself in a sense really objecting to the comments of president trump only helps him because it shows that he is independent, he is not going to be fall in line and follow the president who has nominated him and some democrats who aren t crazy about donald trump or his judicial philosophy may find that attractive. there are a number of democrats who have sat down, dianne feinstein, others who have sat down with judge gorsuch and seem to be extremely impressed. hard to say yes, he is on the conservative side but hard to say he isn t in the judicial mainstream. bill: i want to squeeze this in. white houses have victories and setbacks. how do you score it so far? it s less than 21 days. i think that to have this setback in the ninth circuit court of appeals on the issue of national security is quite a
now. bill: thank you for your time, senator. did the court get it right or not? seems like the court got offended is what it is. when you read through the 29-page ruling the court wrote out they talked about not a strong argument from the government but then they do this long extensive statement that apparently the government attorney said they don t have the right to review this. so they spent lots of time saying yes, we do have the right to review it. and then they push back on this one key thing saying the government was trying to say national security and safety. the states were saying we need professors to come in from some of these locations or maybe researchers and so they were weighing whether it s better to have national security or better to have professors from these universities and they come down on the side of the professors and the universities. it s a very unusual ruling. bill: i have some specific questions here. do you believe a judge has the authority to rule o
media today. that s on our screen now. put a bow on this, bernie. because we ve already admitted he is a different kind of character and you ve said it s bad for the country, but can he when he stands at inauguration and speaking to his supporters in green bay, wisconsin, and pennsylvania, we don t know, bernie, they may be cheering him on along this process. they are. they are. bill: those are the people he is trying to communicate to directly through his tweets and message. i think you re right but i think it s a mistake. he needs to appealing to the people who support him, he doesn t have to do that. he was right when he said he could shoot somebody on fifth avenue and he wouldn t lose that support. he needs to reach out to the rest of america, to people who don t especially like him, but are willing to give him a chance. but if he is going to just appeal to his base, that s a