we re not even talking about the lead up to this conflict by that point, why were you there originally to do a duck documentary, what was it about ukraine or maybe it was about zelenskyy that interested you? get i think i was in the better part of the population with enter understanding of ukraine, with the exception of a phone call between president and zelenskyy and president trump that was made a lot of and the fact that president zelenskyy had been a comedic actor who ha betrayed an actor who became th he went initially to make a documentary that had kind of a bring home a sense of ukraine and a profile of this president fred. it wouldn t bent as interesting and then the next thing you do is this build up o vladimir putin on the eastern side of ukraine. first we have 50,000 troops, then it s 100,000 troops and then all the military equipment and you are chronicling all of this and you develop a relationship with zelenskyy perry telus, as this was unfolding, a lot of t
we re not even talking about the lead up to this conflict by that point, why were you there originally to do a duck documentary, what was it about ukraine or maybe it was about zelenskyy that interested you? get i think i was in the better part of the population with enter understanding of ukraine, with the exception of a phone call between president and zelenskyy and president trump that was made a lot of and the fact that president zelenskyy had been a comedic actor who ha betrayed an actor who became th he went initially to make a documentary that had kind of a bring home a sense of ukraine and a profile of this president fred. it wouldn t bent as interesting and then the next thing you do is this build up o vladimir putin on the eastern side of ukraine. first we have 50,000 troops, then it s 100,000 troops and
and i don t think they were prepared either. am i wrong? to get this could happen tomorrow also. we could get up and they can apply those for three weeks of training. we know that not from sean penn but we know that from the california national guard with 30 years of exercise training with ukraine and where they are with the ukrainian aviators to shortly before they were pulled out because of the politics in the policies related to this impending invasion now invasion. so i think we really have to rethink this because these are at this point truly humanitaria mechanisms. i want to go back to this question, poland offered 28 or 29 makes. every report says joe biden vetoed that.
out of them and they will give you a chance to respond. those are two doctrines i believe in. if we were to apply those doctrines here, i believe ukraine would win. this is what we have to know is that the ukrainians are fighting to win. they are fighting to win for th very thing were able to do righ now, to be free, to dream, and that is what we say we represen as americans. we have a great example of fighting to win. there is another part of it because we talked about the military part of its. the civilian part of it as you see conflicts on journalists, yes, tragically some die, but i m going to finish my point, over in over, we can watch it o tv, why? because you can be smart and yo can know where the strategic zones are, whether it s a
then all the military equipment and you are chronicling all of this and you develop a relationship with zelenskyy perry telus, as this was unfolding, a lot of the world didn t think bruton would do it. i did think he would. all the experts i talked to thought he would. most of the experts that were speaking out in the united states intelligence agency and others felt that he would. i will tell you, i ll think a part of me that wanted to be in denial of what that would mean, to ukraine and ultimately the world, but i thought really, is there an upside to this for him? what s what are present really savvy two was that in particular , the experts on food and felt this was going to happen. what didn t happen was the preemptive sanctions.