even in the black community it was looked down upon in the beginning the black middle class and the black religious class looked down on jazz that had to do with gambling it had to do with. low class low sexual morals and things like that but but you know people like ellington and alice really gave it a kind of respectability i mean after al i really you could take your mother to here to a jazz concert. meet . me here to do. it was. in the mid one nine hundred forty s. he met and married bassist ray brown and was forging