of birmingham. this is bbc news. now, it s time for hardtalk with stephen sackur. welcome to hardtalk. i m stephen sackur. south africa is in a long term flirtation with political and economic chaos. mass unemployment, power cuts, and rising crime are stoking discontent and instability. my guest today isjulius malema, former anc loyalist turned populist enemy of the ruling party. could one of africa s richest nations be consumed by insurrectionist violence? julius malema in bloemfontein, south africa, welcome to hardtalk. thank you very much. mr malema, south africans are facing a very grave economic crisis. there s deep uncertainty in the country. why are you adding to that uncertainty by calling for the removal of president ramaphosa? it s the most logical thing that, when a leader of a current government doesn t perform well or the country is in a crisis, that leader should leave office and give others an opportunity who can come and do much better work. because i don t th
julius malema in bloemfontein, south africa, welcome to hardtalk. thank you very much. mr malema, south africans are facing a very grave economic crisis. there s deep uncertainty in the country. why are you adding to that uncertainty by calling for the removal of president ramaphosa? it s the most logical thing that, when a leader of a current government doesn t perform well, or the country is in a crisis, that leader should leave office and give others an opportunity who can come and do a much better work. because i don t think that mr ramaphosa has got a coherent plan as to how he ll save south africa. but that s not the way democracy works, mr malema. mr ramaphosa has a mandate given to him by the south african people. and, indeed, if you look at the business community, if we re talking about the economy, it seems business leaders think that removing ramaphosa would actually make south africa s situation worse. no, democracy works like that. that s why our constitution pro
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Thank you for being with us. We are going to begin with the crackdown on increasingly defiant and dangerous protests on College Campuses across the country over the war in gaza. Tonight, at Columbia University, the epicenter of the demonstrations, dozens of propalestinian students have barricaded themselves inside a campus building, and they now face expulsion from the ivy league school. A White House Spokesman today saying forcibly taking over buildings is not peaceful, it is wrong. At the university of North Carolina in chapel hill, police forcefully removed protesters this morning. More than half of those arrested were not even affiliated with the university. In recent weeks, protests have been staged at more than 60 campuses. More than a thousand people have been arrested. Many protesters are calling for the schools to cut ties with companies linked to israel and to be transparent about their investments. Cbss tom hanson leads us off tonight from Columbia University in manhattan. R
Thank you for being with us. We are going to begin with the crackdown on increasingly defiant and dangerous protests on College Campuses across the country over the war in gaza. Tonight, at Columbia University, the epicenter of the demonstrations, dozens of propalestinian students have barricaded themselves inside a campus building, and they now face expulsion from the ivy league school. A White House Spokesman today saying forcibly taking over buildings is not peaceful, it is wrong. At the university of North Carolina in chapel hill, police forcefully removed protesters this morning. More than half of those arrested were not even affiliated with the university. In recent weeks, protests have been staged at more than 60 campuses. More than a thousand people have been arrested. Many protesters are calling for the schools to taught ties with companies linked to israel and to be transparent about their investments. Cbss tom hanson leads us off tonight from Columbia University in manhattan