judge starr who would know some thing about impeachment that would be the show, because they know this advocates of the moments and the importance of what they are doing. it cries out for transparency in comparison to what we see with schiff.or laura: chad, are reporter on capitol hill is saying that who is formally with an nsc staff said there was concern and alarm about efforts to press you ukraine into investigating bide and that these alarms were raised with nsc lawyers. she testified for ten hours and her testimony is leaking out of what they claim is like a grand jury. do grand jury s traditionally have such leaks as these? no, absolutely not. it s a crime for a federal grand jury. a witness can go out and testify or to make comments, hold press conferences, and so forth.h.