iraq they sent him to fort lev enworth kansas the army school if you will for the operational level. it was while he was there that he came to the realization that this was an insurgency. we had not updated our counter insurgency doctrine since the vietnam war. it was there that he began to assemble his writing team and think about revamping the doctrine. sara shul is the former faculty director for harvard kennedy school of government. i was at the time assembling a group to discuss counter insurgency and talk about the humanitarian challenges associated with it through the contacts and friendships we had made in the course of years working together with people in uniform. i became involved and probably only general petraeus would have the confidence and acumen to say great that s a wonderful idea. just call up and say hey, how are you doing? i have got an offer for you a proposal.