would likely stand out in eric holder s mind? it s unprecedented. and the degree of willingness of this administration to target, to target a reporter for this network as an unindicted coconspirator? i mean, that is without precedent. and, unfortunately, i think it s part and parcel of a pattern from this administration of not respecting the bill of rights. north respecting the first amendment. not respecting the second amendment. not respecting our fourth and fifth amendment rights regarding drone strikes. regarding the irs. over and over again the pattern we have seen is unfortunate willingness to use the machinery of the federal government as a tool and a partisan tool to punish those perceived as your political enemies. i think that s really troubling, particularly when combined assemble and mislead the american people. do you think this comes from the top. well, it certainly we have seen the lack of
month investigation serve as distraction to solving the true problems that the american people want solved and that s the economy. if theist through the doj cannot have a public airing of the facts with an understanding why it happened, how it happened and who was responsible what are the guidelines to make sure it s done in a balanced way to go forward then we have to go that route. megyn: i will let you respond. two other polls do you approve or disprove of the way the irs is handling its job? 66% say disapproved. before the scandal. would you describe the situation with the irs as a scandal or not. 53% say it is a scandal when asked do you think that the administration deliberately mislead the american people about the situation with the irs. 40 percent said they deliberately mislead. 45% say they shared the facts as they became available. 53% are calling it a scandal. labels are important with these other controversies a lot of controversy calling them scandals, it is one
catholic but it only comes once a year, right? even the protestants we only do it once a year, too. that s all we have got, megyn. megyn: suggests a man who does not want to are for the right i m saying that answer yet again leads to more questions. leads to a lot of peeps. i don t know how much he now regrets his testimony. i can be very certain though that the president regrets that mr. shulman conducted himself in this way and had such a bad outing. the questions continue you were talking about it earlier today americans know they want a special prosecutor to look into what happened at the irs. until we have answers about what they were talking about all 15 times when it wasn t about eggs and peeps and everything that happened and who was responsible and what did lois lerner know and when she knew it and all of this stuff that has to be dragged through. until that happens, it s only going to get worse.
thrown in jail. and, yet, in that case, they basically fired nobody. ultimately a couple people resigned, the desk chairs were shuffled why talked about how in the state department in the wake of benghazi you have got four people on paid administrative leave. no one gets fired. so far the irs may ask for the rifings of one guy about to leave i. anyway and another guy. the people doing it. everybody lois lerner paid administrative leave. i know it s hard to fire a democrat bureaucrat but it can be done, can to not. i think president obama needs to take responsibility and needs to tell the truth. in recent weeks there are at least two instances of senior officials for the administration telling flat out falsehoods. number one the white house press secretary said with regard to benghazi that neither the white house nor the state department changed the talking points at all other than changing the word consulate. now, within a few days abc news reported that that wasn t true that t
megyn: we don t know that much about mr. shulman appointed by president bush. we know he donated $500 to the democratic national committee. so, you know, back in 2004 that was. so, we don t know exactly what his political persuasion is or whether he decided to get more political than we have seen in former irs chiefs. hopefully time will tell. maybe president obama is getting audited. [ laughter ] we ll look into it. megyn: thanks, chris. you bet. megyn: coming up, speak life with texas republican senator ted cruise a member of the senate judiciary committee and outspoken critic of irs scandal. we will also ask him about the investigation into potential perjury charges into attorney general eric holder and his own much debated plans for the 2016 presidential race. you have seen the vial hateful remarks going