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Game Over : Former Mueller Prosecutor Says Trump Will Be Indicted Over Reported Audio of Him Talking About Classified Docs

Former Mueller probe investigator Andrew Weissmann said it could be lights out for Donald Trump if a recording exists of the former president admitting he…

There Will Be An Indictment: Weissman Says of Trump Audio

Andrew Weissmann said it could be lights out for Donald Trump if a recording exists of the former president admitting he possessed sensitive classified documents.

Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle 20240604 04:05:00

investigation. now while there are still a lot of unanswered questions. former mueller prosecutor, andrew weissmann, made this key observation earlier today. in order to make it a criminal case there has to be bad intent. you have to show the president biden you that these documents existed, and they were outside of the white house. they were at his home, or at an office. and that he intended them to be there and to retain them in spite of a demand to have them returned. as you heard from carole, the president to saying that he had no such knowledge of any such intent. that is what will be looked at by the special counsel. so that is step one. if you can t show knowledge, and intense. you re not in a criminal space at all. with that. let s get smarter with the help of our lead off panel tonight. msnbc senior capitol hill correspondent, garrett tank. washington post white house reporter, jasmine abdullah.

Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 04:20:00

time where a lot of americans are looking at the past, right? they re looking at mueller to see what could happen. former mueller prosecutor andrew weizmann brought up this week, advising special counsel jack smith, on what to learn from the mueller probe. what do you hope jackson mid would be able to learn from the mueller probe? well, i think there are a couple of lessons to be gleaned from that, and the essay that you just cited definitely hit on a few of them. number one, trump is no longer a sitting president. so, some of the precautions and constraints that mueller approached his investigation with do not apply in the situation with jack smith and what he s trying to do. one of the other things that i felt was a very poignant point that came out during that essay was the notion of how you engage the public narrative. mueller was very, very quiet about it from the standpoint of we are talking about a current sitting president, and anything that had been revealed about the invest

Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 01:20:00

would be able to learn from the mueller probe? well, i think there are a couple of lessons to be gleaned from that, and the essay that you just cited definitely hit on a few of them. number one, trump is no longer a sitting president. so, some of the precautions and constraints that mueller approached his investigation with do not apply in the situation with jack smith and what he s trying to do. one of the other things that i felt was a very pointed point that came out during that as it was the notion of how you engage the public narrative. mueller was very, very quiet about it from the standpoint of we are talking about the current sitting president, and anything that had been revealed about the investigation in his findings prematurely could have really rocked democracy at its core. now that you are talking about someone who is no longer an office, it s very important that jackson be savvy enough, along with merrick garland, as to how to engage the public narrative around this thi

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