a michael cohen story, the term team of screwballs goes through my head. as he entered the white house, chris christie in a book that comes out calls them second raters, nuts and grifters. all that being said, i think perhaps some of the background that we saw from mr. giuliani last night is the fact that this now voluble, now eager-to-talk michael cohen is going to testify before a congressional committee, which is to say before the united states and i think katty s february 7th i think is the date. so that s going to be colorful,
to figure out whether or not that is true, whether or not that is official, that s incredibly problematic. we we do have a lot of people in the courts that he appointed. we don t know where it s going. we know, yes. it s terrifying. and michael, forgive me. maybe i was speaking that day or something. but i thought donald trump said mexico was going to pay for this wall. i mean, why are we even putting people through this? he promised that mexico would pay send them the bill. no, this is a bill that s being paid for by american taxpayers. bottom line. right. and the president has always known that. he can blather on about mexico, you know, paying for this. what is still stunning to me is the number of people who really believe that s going to happen. and that, i think, is probably the most terrifying part of this narrative. because any effort to push back and to show the truth and
senator, but he won a big race, not lost a big race as he was going into this. lynn, i want to interrupt you there because i think it also raises a question, this is a political climate unlike anything we have ever seen before. absolutely. and the rules are different because the game has changed. steve, what lessons from 2016 do democrats really need to keep in mind as they mount a challenge against president trump a second time around? two things. number one, the lesson isn t 2016. the lesson is 2018. do you want to know what electoral success looks like? look at the house midterm elections. democrats were able to, number one, retain their base, and number two, got swing voters. they attracted swing voters, many of whom voted for donald trump in 2016. democrats need to retain their base and continue to attract swing voters. the second thing, forgive me, ea of all the criteria that the most to me is who will win.
not best practice. i don t know if you heard former fbi director james comey intimate that they basically got one over, that they might not have gotten over on the other people. it seems i don t know. all right, i ll let you go. thank you. republican congressman adam kinzinger, a member of the house foreign relations affairs committee, forgive me. he joins me now, good to see you. i want to pick up on that point. intimidation is something that most of us give into, as human beings, if we are sitting across from the fbi. that s right, and your prior guest had it correct in saying that maybe it s not illegal for the fbi to do that. it may not be. as a not-fbi, i don t know exactly what they have to abide by. to call somebody and say you don t need a lawyer, we re just going to come out and chat, i think that sends a whole different message. it will be interesting to see what this judge says when he gets all the papers.
goes on tomorrow is not a trial. no one goes to jail at the end of the proceedings. there s no burden of proof of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. but nonetheless the republicans is now set this up with a prosecutor who will engage in, you know, interrogation. yeah. it s sort of taking on prosecutorial overtones where it benefits them, but not where it would hurt them. no investigation. they ve said, no, no, we don t need fbi, we don t need people to do investigation. we the senate have got this. but then the biggest part of their job, which is questioning witnesses, i mean, i made this analogy earlier and i m not a huge sports person, forgive me, isn t this like the baseball team and they train for this, prepare for this big game coming up, they get paid for this, this is their job and then come game time, we re going to bring in outside players because we really can t handle it. how is that okay? this is their job and they re hiding behind her. one of the other developments l