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president trump ill in achieving it but even president trump has said that s probably not going to happen this time around. there are neoconservatives who will be prodding this president to put a stranglehold on kim then threatened military intervention but we put out a report that found the american people are very reluctant to want to use military intervention generally come a much more reluctant than the foreign policy elite. they don t see this nuclear threat as existential as some in the foreign policy community might want us to. martha: you are in favor of a more gradual approach, whatever you can get in terms of eliminating some of those weapons at least at the beginning, correct? absolutely, we need to clarify what our needs and our wants are. it doesn t present a threat to us right now, we can deter north korea with what we have. martha: we have wanted that for a long time.
obama. what do you think about that, ambassador mcfaul? oh, i think that s absolutely right, it s a great observation. it s a pattern we ve seen for a couple of years. putin always talks about this deep state, the foreign policy elite. he s talking me. he s talking about us when he says that. and it s a way for him to distance his relationship with president trump. he s still holding out the idea that if he could just work with trump, they could resolve these kinds of issues. and it s new, he didn t talk that way during the obama administration. does this make you worry even more about that two-hour meeting in helsinki with no note-takers, no american witnesses, and all these private phone calls apparently that take place? yes. i mean, for a couple of reasons. one, that s just not standard operating procedure. you know, i worked three years at the white house. you always have a memorandum of those conversations to help your foreign policy team.
he s got to be fired. and this is a sort of preemptive anticipation of how the president is going to react based on their experience previously. look, if you were going to create a moment to engineer someone being fired by president trump, you can t do much better than going to aspen among the national security and foreign policy elite and effectively being in on the joke that there is this guy who nobody in the room has much respect for who is conducting foreign policy in, again, universally acknowledged among the people in the room, a reckless way. and then dan coats made i thought four pretty stunning points, although people who pay attention to the intelligence won t find them that stunning. the first one was he thought it was a mistake for the president to meet alone with vladimir putin. the second is that he obviously was dismayed by what the president said.
you know the story. what do you think explains that incredibly different takeu on what s been happening? i think some of those voices want weak american leadership. when i was looking through the mueller indictment friday, steve, i was looking at it and it struck me that the hacking and the things that were done was a third-rate operation. so if putin approved that, to me that s the ultimate sign he totally didn t respect barack obama who was president at the time and barack obama was a passive president. trump is willing to lead and buck the foreign policy elite. the foreign policy elites haven t gotten have many things right the past 25-30 years. i think it s good he s willing to do that. but a strong president will get better results. we have seen it with the
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