their thinking is perhaps the president is trying to do some transaction, show respect for some of these foreign dictators. but at the same time they say this is not like the health care deal, this is not domestic front, that it s far more difficult and sequential to have these kind of overtured made on the foreign policy area. let s talk about the president of the philippines, duterte. human rights groups put the death toll give or take around 7,000 from these de facto death squads that have been roaming around trying to attack the drug problem there. it s certainly one way i want to run for you before we talk to you before we talk to you about it, jeremy, a snippet of the sound from the president on the leader of the philippines. he has been very, very tough on that drug problem. but he has a massive drug problem. he is very popular in the philippines. he has a very high approval
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roommate, when we were congressmen sleeping downstairs on couches, leon panetta, speaks highly of him. i think mattis could be actually a guide and maybe a check on president trump we were congressmen sleeping downstairs on couches, leon panetta, speaks highly of him. i think mattis could be a guide and maybe a check on president trump in the foreign policy area, and let me tell you, a lot of my republican colleagues are formed for that reason. i understand donald trump called you the morning after he was elected. he did. in fact, you were one of the first people that he called. i guess that s right. that shows an understanding, doesn t it? for the first month he said i m his friend. look, we never had dinner together, never played golf together but i bump into him from place to place and he did that fundraiser you noted on the show a while ago when i was head of the senate campaign committee, he helped me take back the senate. then he started attacking me, calling me names
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so, the left hand knows what the right hand is saying. ron brownstein, to you. i wonder if we, the media, the american public, are focused more on this now and is it messy and how messy and to what extent because it is donald trump in terms of being an unknown quantity, having never served in public office before. how much do you think is that and how much do you think it is really messier than most transiti transitions? look, transitions are often messy. it s not unusual for a transition to be messy. but i think here, particularly in the foreign policy area, you do have a real issue because the most conspicuous breach between donald trump and the existing republican leadership was over foreign policy. you talked about with jim fallows the extraordinary letters from dozens of former top security officials and, ultimately, two former secretaries of state, condoleezza rice and colin powell saying he did not believe he had the temperament or experience to serve as commander in chief.
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if it s a small victory, it won t help her with governing, it will leave a lot of recriminations among trump voters. if it s a big victory she will have more leverage going forward. for example, if latinos really step up and deliver a pivotal state like florida, the republican also under enormous pressure to get an immigration bill done so we can appeal to these people. if it s donald trump, how do you bring together these groups? then it s an unknown territory. i don t know how you put together a government. a couple people in the foreign policy area have stayed on the sidelines in case they re needed, for in a trump government. i think you ll see the markets respond extremely negatively and a lot of other repercussions. not to say he can t put it together but he is in really uncharted territory. kirsten. he s talked about, if he
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