asking a ranger oradell that forceara seal to go to some infantry unit and spend the rest of their time on front lines. it s just unfathomable from a military perspective what might happen to the wagner group in the future. that s why i say this isn t over yet. there will be internal rebellion within the military, within the army self, not just at the senior leader level. there is a lack of trust now in all of the leaders of the russian forces, especially mr. putin, by the soldiers wearing the uniform. in many respects, it may only be just beginning right now. by no means over. we are watching these fascinating developments unfold. retired lieutenant-general mark hertling, thank you very much. still ahead, what lesson has putin learned from in uprising and how concerned should he be about the possibility of another one? we ll discuss that and more right after a quick break.