tonight. so what do those voters want to hear? consistently those who want to like donald trump say they want him to be more controlled, more on message. while those who want to like joe biden say they want him to prove his age is not an issue. are either one of them going to deliver? and what exactly does delivering look like? what exactly is the metric for a good performance on age or on personal control? let s try to figure that out. joining us from atlanta, vaughn hilliard and staff writer for the atlantic and msnbc political contributor vonn leibovich. vaughn, donald trump is coming up with expectation. he s not controlled. he s not polite and he interrupts and over talks, but this is a situation that will cut him off. his mike will be cut. you can probably still hear him if he keeps talking and his microphone will not be on and are we going to see a different donald trump tonight? this is going to be his 17th debate, katy. as you said, this is not new for him, and o
again, it s a mixed bag decision. there is some presidential immunity. there is presidential immunity for official acts, not unofficial acts. the way that they ve worded it as we ve been discussing at this table and with our guests is that it does seem to lean heavily toward donald trump s arguments here, that he can do what he wants to do as the president of the united states. let s bring in ken dilanian outside of the supreme court. ken, what do you have? reporter: yeah, katy, i think the analysis here has been spot on. you know, the decision goes a long way to say that the president is not above the law and that private acts, unofficial acts are not immune. but if you look at the implications for jack smith s indictment of former president trump, they appear to be dire because there s a whole section in the indictment about donald trump s efforts to enlist the justice department to falsely- allegedly falsely proclaim there was fraud in the election, write letters to stat
to pick up and use. the minority, led by justice sotomayor, who warned today that, quote, the man in charge of enforcing laws can now just break them. ironic, isn t it? but for six in the majority, including the chief justice, the already highly controversial decision is meant to protect the presidency, writing that the framers always demanded an energetic, independent executive. we ll dig into the immediate fallout. plus, did today s legal bombshell effectively blow up jack smith s january 6th case against former president trump? what the decision said about the evidence smith can and can t use against the former president if the case gets to trial. it s not just d.c., could the cases in florida and georgia be wiped away, too? as the former president celebrates what he s calling a big win for democracy, a big decision awaits the current president. stay in the race or step aside after thursday s disastrous debate? i ll ask one of biden s top advisers what it s going to ta
. a . a little bit under women and seniors and still under performing among women and trump is doing well among black, hispanic and young compared to previous campaigns and you are right, absolutely the movement is among independent and they have moved in recent polls roughly 9 points towards biden at 21% of independent in a survey shortly after the conviction said that they were the less likely to vet for donald trump as a result of the conviction. you know, john, in close elections where michigan wisconsin will probably be decided for under a point. that fluctuation really mat matters. one thing he didn t did donald trump ■çwill tell you is he has the joan rivers vote locked away. okayings my god. just like he has in the past. so he s at least got that on the side bit. independent have broken away, and again, we hear it every four years, donald trump is going to get 20% of the black vote, 25% of the black vote. it doesn t happen. well, as i will, you know, be
friday will join us at the table. grab your coffee and settle in and will come. tomorrow, the supreme court will rule on one of donald trump s delay tactics to escape accountability for trying to steal the 2020 election. the justices are from the set to release their decision on the scope of presidential immunity, setting this saving this crucial case until the very last day of their term. the election trial interference has been on hold since the supreme court agreed to hear it in february. the delay made it almost certain that trump will not face a jury before the 2024 election. goodness. i ve got questions. ■ç people advancers. joining us is tim, the former lead investigator the january 6 house select committee. he served as a u.s. attorney for the western district of virginia. marcus childress also a former january 6 committee investigator. i heard you were his boss. hi, hope you are doing well. can someone explain for us at the table and the folks at home wh