the poor who refuse to get involved and pull themselves up by their boot straps, increasingly they re hurting middle class families who have fall noon poverty through no part of their own. it s one of those situations if you re in a red state you re far more likely to endure in poverty because of politics. becomes a purity test that exacts a steep toll in terms of the human price. nora, talk about the food pantry equation in terms of need and, you know, we ve read anecdotally that, you know, in ohio there was one food pantry that said the demand was 25 to 30% greater last year, it s 25% greater than it was the year before, meaning it s a 50 to 60% increase in need in these food pantries. the recession as we re told, is, you know, we re getting better economically and yet it seems like people still can t put food on the table. so, unemployment is one of the single biggest driving factors in terms of the increase in the need for people visiting food banks and pantries across the u.s.