talked about the issue of pay and there being some willingness to engage on that. what is complex about these talks is both sides seem to go in wanting to talk about different things. the unions wanted to talk about the pay offer they have got for this year. that is what the current strikes have been about. the government seems to want to talk about the next pay offer they want to get, maybe a better pay offer that may be tied to efficiency and productivity. unison s representative came out of the meeting and seemed to suggest steve barkley was willing to listen to the idea of pay for this year, the year the strikes are about and that is something he would take away. sources close to the health secretary are telling us that they were productive meetings, well worth having, that he is looking at the
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a disappointing meeting. perhaps the most interesting statement came came from unison. what is complex about the talks is both sides seem to want to talk about different things. the unions want to talk about the pay offerfor this unions want to talk about the pay offer for this year. that is what the strikes have been about. whereas the strikes have been about. whereas the government seems to want to talk about the next pay offer they will get, perhaps a slightly different pay offer that may be tied to efficiency and productivity. the unison representative seemed to suggest that he had been willing to listen to the idea of increasing pay for this year, the year that all the strikes are about and that was something he would take away. sources close to the health secretary tell us that they were
about pay demands and pay issues that are anchored in what s reasonable, what s responsible, what s affordable for the country. but the most important thing is those talks are happening and let s sit down and try and find a way through. but not everyone shares rishi sunak s optimism. the government wants to talk about pay for the year ahead. current strikes are in relation to this year s pay offer. for unions there has to be discussion about current rates of pay. this was one health union official on the way into talks. we haven t even seen an agenda for this meeting, that s the position we are in. but the demand is clear, we need discussion about 2023. so how did those talks go? the government have missed yet another opportunity to put this right. we came here in good faith. what they want to talk about is productivity. productivity, when our members are working 18 hour shifts. quite how you become more productive with that, i do not know.