the gop. karl rove launched the conservative victory project to get involved in primaries to make sure that the party doesn t in the primary nominate somebody who can t win a general election. do you think that is a mistake? elections are free marketplace and everybody has a right to participate in primary elections. i would say primary elections need to not be selected by the party in my case and also in senator rubio s case the party chose someone else and in senator rubio s case chose someone who is now a democrat. it wasn t a good choice. let s have healthy primaries. if people want to contribute on all sides let people make voluntary contributions and you will see how it goes. i think primaries you get a good candidate typically. chris: let s turn to the president s agenda. what is wrong with the idea that the president laid out in the state of the union that yes at this time particularly when we have a weak recovery we need to spend more money he calls it
fundamentally the debt that we have at the moment is the bigger problem for the economy and job creation in the private sector. chris: let me binge karl in to talk about the sequester and look at the president s state of the union speech and agenda he laid out and what does that tell us about what he wants to do in his second term? spend a lot of money and pursue a lot of liberal social policies and says he is out of touch with the reality of where the country is. the democrats said we don t have a spending problem. 83% of the american people say we have a pending problem. i agree with kim. $85 billion cut is a 2.4% cut roughly out of this year s budget. it is a chunk. but a lot of families have had to cut deeper and it is an $85 billion cut in government spending when we have a $16 trillion economy. the administration is right to say there will be some problems with across-the-board hair cuts. that is why the republicans in the house have been talking about in the in the conti
$85 billion that are split evenly between the domestic side and military pentagon spending or the president s demand for an increase in taxes then let the sequester happen. are they wrong about that? i think so. i think we should in a bipartisan fashion stop see questions traiks before in the words of the dvd of defens secf defense detroys the pentagon. we can cut spending in the next decade without detroying the defense department if we choose. the president promised in the campaign sequestration would not happen. now, he is allowing it to happen and raising taxes to pay for half of it and the other half comes from further defense cuts. we already cut $489 billion and taking money out of the farm bill. when the president says we cut spending by $2.5 trillion. that is absolutely a misleading statement. chris: why? well, because we haven t. we haven t done anything with
flexibility for the president and the administration to move money around between accounts to accounts. you have a ship building account at dod that is says spend out for the next five years. allow them to take the money and put it into maintenance and operation to keep the fitness of current services. let s be honest about this. a bad idea fifthed upon us by the president of the united states who has had 18 months to lead the country in a way that we could make smart cuts and not stupid cuts. we added $600 billion in tax refs in january. the president lan last year television ads saying for every dollar in new revenues we out to have $2.50 in spenting cuts and now where are we the president s sequester [ overlapping speakers ] no, no, no. in the white house let s be clear. in and they really don t want to talk about the origins this of sequester now. but the republicans definitely
they don t step aside and allow a robust normal primary to emerge. chris: bob, what does is say about the republican party when you have karl rove stepping in to say we have to police who the republican primary voters. it is part of the process, i m not saying there is anything wrong with it and let me just finish the question and when you have marco rubio who is conservative and a tea party favorite giving the republican response and the tea party thinks they have to somebody else give a response to the response? my last book is going to be called some people never go away and karl is going to get his own chapter because he never goes away. i m sorry. maybe two chapters because you never know what the next bounce will be with you. but what is interesting is the focus on money. i think the problem in the republican party is really not money. i think they have got lots of it. i think it is theory of the case. why are we here.