the end of the tunnel. so vaccination for our entire team was we believed that light at the end of the tunnel. we made that decision collectively. putting something into somebody s body against their will as a condition of employment is a slippery slope and it s one i m afraid i don t want to see the nursing home industry, assisted living industry or employee numbers go down. it so, two different opinions there, right? hearing from lynn there for instance, she said it s not necessarily a requirement you have to get vaccined to work here. there are exceptions f. you have a medical exemption, you don t have to necessarily get vaccinated. but brian saying it s a slippery slope, right, to require folks to get vaccinated. so this is why it s an uphill battle to make sure they re keeping folks signed these facilities as safe as possible and navigating this new area. it s an important story we will continue to follow s
chairman chaffetz is not necessarily one who is going to take that position that he did today saying that he saw nothing, kind of taking a swing at general flynn there. i will say i still would say, let s reserve judgment. general flynn, i worked with him. he had a distinguished career in the military. three-star general, headed a defense intelligence agency. he s a bright man. i would like to see what s in the paper. let s let the string be pulled. let s withhold judgment. until all the facts are in. that s fair enough. but dan pfeiffer, let me ask you. you saw sean spicer, the way they re trying to deal with this, which is the same way they dealt with paul manafort, kind of pretending they never met him before. they had a huge role. how would you advise them if you were communications director at white house? what would you say is the way to handle it? what there are no good answers for sean. that s true every day, but particularly true in this case. they are going to have to g
that. let s bring in my panel. we have dan fifer, amy walter and david urban. david, let me start with you. the man who won pennsylvania for president trump. you are not a member of the white house. you don t have to defend anything you don t want to. a few weeks ago people were wondering why michael flynn wanted immunity. this might be why he wanted immunity. i think it s a good chance there, jake. i would say that chairman chaffetz is not necessarily one who is going to take that position that he did today saying that he saw nothing, kind of taking a swing at general flynn there. i will say i still would say, let s reserve skrjudgment. i worked with general flynn. he is a three star general. he is a bright man. i would like to see what s in the paper. let s let the string be pulled. let s withhold judgment. that s fair enough. dan fifer, let me ask you, you saw sean spicer s the way they re trying to deal with
roosevelt hospital probably within five or six minutes of the shooting taking place. as you heard from dr. lynn there, he was already most of the way there if not all the way there by the time he got inside. i said to dr. lynn, as good as medicine was in 1980, if he had today s technology and able to apply it then, would you have been able to save his life? he said extent of the trauma he suffered, because chapman was usiing hollow point bullets. he said we were pumping his heart, infusing blood into his veins but there was nothing to pump blood from the heart back out with. all of the major vessels were gone. whether it was 1980 or whether it was 2010 there was just nothing they could do to save his life. you re a guy with a great background in music, covering