after the chief of staff, the second most important senior staffer in the white house which is why i think the judge was so incensed, right? so you started off this conversation with frank saying that redacted part of the memo is probably something that we we certainly don t know, but the judge knows, and it made him so angry, so incensed and the other question is, what did flynn tell mueller to get basically zero to six, at least, to the judge, to be given to the judge who didn t go with that, clearly, and said let s come back in 90 days? those are the things we just don t know and we have to remember, jovanka brought flynn into the trump world. that s right. and jovanka brought flynnwit year. was the whisperer for donald trump. there are those 24 days that trump was national security adviser. what did he do? there are so many questions we don t have answers to. all right. we re just hitting pause. after the break, more on the
investigation, that anyone sort of did a gulp or had a moment when they read that news that 19 interviews went down. all the hours matt miller described. that s a whole lot of time spent and the government happy with him. recommending no jailtime and saying he provided substantial assistance. yeah, look, i mean, you can t look at that and not wonder what really went on in those sessions. what was it that flynn gave up? that also is another one of these huge unanswered questions of the entire story. what is it that flynn gave up? what did flynn tell mueller about? because there was a lot that went on during the transition. it was not just the contacts with the russians. contacts with other countries around lobbying that was going on at the u.n. and maybe when flynn, you know, is finally sentenced, we ll get more clarity on what he really gave up. mike miller, frank figliuzzi and mike schmidt. up next, the most unwanted man in america. i just got my cashback match,
questions. who else on team trump when you talk about this facilitating who s more important than flynn in the eye of the russia probe? two people come to mind. one being don junior, obviously a crucial topic for the special counsel, and jared kushner, the president s son-in-law. kushner was a key member of the transition team and we do know he had interactions with the russians including ambassador kislyak and others. according to a source kushner event discussed setting up a back channel to the kremlin. kushner has spoken out on this one and he was adamant he didn t do anything wrong. let me be very clear, i did notclude with russia, nor do i know of anyone else in the campaign who did so. i had no improper contacts. okay, the big question tonight, though, is well, is that true? did flynn tell mueller
flynn. what could flynn tell mueller that would aid him in the obstruction case? flynn is potentially a really important witness. remember, he was with trump during the transition and close him them and then there the first 24 days of the administration as all of these conversations were taking place. the investigation already going. he is really somebody, not just somebody who s in the white house. he s somebody potentially in the room during conversations. that s really important. what could he say to mueller that would be a nail in the coffin for trump in the obstruction case? what mueller s team wants to know, were there conversations about sanctions with russia? was there a quid pro quo involving the election? the president publicly stated that he has no knowledge of any communications between his camp and campaign and the russian government. so it s potentially flynn might be able to testify and provide information about that. all of that would be very relevant to the inves