does it look like a bomb is the likeliest scenario here? so here we have the french authorities working with the egyptian authorities trying to put together what actually happened on this airplane and this was about 7 months ago that this accident took place. so they found, the tnt and i do know that an air bus is built out of carbon fiber, it s also a fly by wire airplane. the pilot inputs are going through wires to the flight control so there s a lot of cables there. when airplane catches on fire, it s creating smoke and fumes and out of those smoke and fumes, let s say out of the wire bundles could come some other chemicals, this is something that needs to be further investigated and they re doing their best. they haven t quite ruled outer risk act yet, explosion on board the airplane, they are looking into that and it is possible that it is one of the scenarios that will play out. nobody has claimed this accident
this is possibly one scenario, a lot of drag on the airplane and the airplane would start descending. jon: and if you have a full load of fuel and full load of passengers that can be obviously tragic. it s a one scenario. they are also looking at fuel problems and it did get fully fueled where it last landed and we are looking at possibly engine failures, there s a lot that play out, so the flight data recorder that they discovered and the voice recorder, both of those will show accurate depiction and give a narrative on what brought the plane down. jon: update on egypt 804 which went down in the mediterranean back in may, investigators had pointed to on board fire as likely cause but government officials found traces of explosives on some of the bodies recovered. 66 people died in that crash,
point, however, ruling out the fact that there was no explosion on the airplane, right now it would lean towards possible mechanical and pilot error scenario. jon: pilots were talking about having problems with the flaps, the things people might see kind of creeping down from the wings before takeoff and landing, they give you spray lift, if you re having a problem with the flaps that could cause a plane to go down. this is an old plane built back in the 60 s, a lot of mechanical things going with the wing, designed to go very fast, so on takeoff, they have the flaps, they have the leading-edge devices that come out and if let s say on takeoff one of the flaps don t retract and one stays out, you ll have a rolling motion of the airplane, the pilots would counter act,
information. it s being picked up by the associated press. german wings low cost airline out of berlin. one of their a 320s has gone down. joining us on the phone is our aviation expert. we re getting breaking details regarding this incident with the airplane. a large number of people on board, including crew and two pilots. give us your thoughts on this developing situation. it s a low cost airline in cologne. it has a couple of according to our reports she was lost at about 6,800 feet, which is mountaino mountainous. that implies a possible collision with a mountain, flying at perhaps too low an altitude. it s very unusual for an aircraft of this nature to lose
it shows there is debris in the mountains. number one, 80 minutes into the flight, if that report proves to be correct 80 minutes into the flight, they were reporting a problem almost immediately from takeoff. you could solve a lot of problems in that period of time. what does it go to tell you as a pilot if you have a problem early and you re in the air on 80 minutes. he didn t deviate off of course during that time he s referencing. we need to wait and see if he did deviate. at this point, you know, he may have try today make a turn. if you end up with an engine failure, for example, you may not want to turn into that engine. the airplane i flew the engines were close enough together, it was considered axial thrust. i could turn into a dead engine. in a bigger plane you probably don t want to. it probably depends on what is on your left or right. what does that mean? if the engine on the left wing is out, that means you don t want to go to the left. in certain airplanes yes