What impacted that have on you . Ms. Isenberg she was a very unusual person. She came to the university of wisconsin. She had to create a space for us in History Program and that she was someone who was very aware not only of gender and class and racial issues in all the things she wrote about but i think she imparted to me that you also have to understand the politics of academia and the way in which politics in general, we like to believe in america that we are free agents and we are able to sort of carver own destiny, part of our carve our own destiny part of her own destiny, but we do not always good to make the decisions that we want to. She wanted to think about the larger ways culture, politics, the law shaped the way people think even though they might not be aware of it, but to take that into account in do not just take things as given. Challenge them. See if it is really true. That is something that has really motivated me throughout my career, even when you read good history