from dallas to los angeles each day, if they take two or three of those out, tell me which flight number is missing? i don t know. 15 to la guardia nonstop and the hub cities will see most of the flight downsizings. but it will be on the major routes where they are running 10 or 15 or 20 flight as day. neil: the other carriers are trying to keep off bankruptcy filings and they will consider the same, right? guest: well, everyone was tug about downsizing. we will see downsizing between air tran and southwest this year. we know that southwest is going to pull cities like atlantic city and newport news, and who knows what other cities on the route system, dallas-ft. worth they will quit in january. but, over all, if you are going to buy in 2012, wait for the air fare sales. the only one we have until may