missiles, you ve got a chinese spy balloon flying over our sky, china buying up u.s. farmland, biden is really not doing anything to keep america safe at this point and the illegal border crossings, a dangerous time for america right now. john: something on the campaign trail you said yesterday regarding abortion, achilles heel for republicans in the last reasons last november. you urged the national consensus on abortion between the parties, yet no details what it should look like. let me ask you, what do you think the consensus should look like? well, first of all, let s be clear. up until 1972, for almost two centuries, states were able to decide through consensus in their own states on what they wanted. after 1972, roe came in and basically put very liberal policies in place that a lot of people didn t agree with, allowed for abortion any time, anywhere, any place.
the young woman who brought the case, who sued the living daylights out of the neo-nazi, her case was successful. she won a large monetary judgment against the nazi who ran the web site who orchestrated the attacks. she has since graduated from american university, went on to graduate from cardoza school of law, and joined the same organization that represented her and won her case against that neo-nazi web site in 2017. earlier today she spoke about her case at the justice department civil rights division virtual conference on confronting hate. she joins us live, a presidential fellow at the national lawyers committee under law, it s an honor to have you here. thank you. thank you so much for having me, rachel! . so let me start first of all by asking if i got any of that wrong, and also by asking how you re doing. i imagine this has been just an incredible flexion point,
law. she has now joined the national lawyers committee, the same organization that represented her and won that case against the neo-nazi website in 2017. earlier today she spoke about her case at the justice department civil rights division virtual conference on confronting hate. taylor dumpson joins us live, a presidential fellow at the national lawyers committee under law. it s an honor to have you here. thank you. thank you so much for having me, rachel. so let me start first of all by asking if i got any of that wrong, and also by asking how you re doing. i imagine this has been just an incredible flexion point, turning point in your life. it seems to have set you off on the path you re on now. absolutely. the hate crime, to say the least, definitely changed my life, and the cyber harassment that ensued afterwards continued to do so. i m definitely one of the lucky ones. i m one of the people who have survived. i take it as an obligation and a
over at the white house, the president running out of patience. jen psaki take to set the microphone very soon, we believe, with new reporting out now that the administration says that it is time for budget talks to wrap up. why one senator this afternoon is making that more complicated. also this hour, what texas is telling an appeals court today about the state s near total ban on abortion and the deposition donald trump is now being ordered to give next week. one of those afternoons where we re ripping up the rundown. i m hallie jackson reporting from nbc headquarters in new york. and i m joined by our reporters on capitol hill. and so let s start on the latest on this january 6 committee situation. because there is an escalation now between the committee and steve bannon. absolutely right. and this is an in-flexion point, the january 6 committee announcing plans for its first criminal referral as part of the investigation to steve bannon for refusing to comply with a
rachel: it see in this moment is inflection point. over the last year i have been wondering when will americans have enough? i see so much submission to these kinds of edicts without the science backing it up or the science changing and then them not changing the policy. so we will see. that really is the question. if everybody decides to not follow the rules, then they can t do it. but if people. brian: law enforcement gives homicide suspects ankle bracelets and looking to arrest you for not wearing a mask. rachel: exactly. steve: flexion point is coming in the come months when people start sending their kids back to school. rachel: great point. science. steve: the manifestation is these people at the school board meetings and going hey, look, what are you doing to us? the science says and you know what the science says. anyway, more on this a little later on. meantime come look it at your tv set. does this look like a kid rock