a role for free or not, okay, with the president of united states? you have to be very forthright and forthcoming, you know what? dana: i don t think it s spying if you are manafort and you are dealing if you go back and look in his client list and you know the kind of thingsk he s been involved in, yeah, you might assume. jesse: he s kind of a shady guy. kennedy: but the person who hired him to be a campaign manager also has some responsibility but i also thinkk the president, being touched by this form of spying dana: we don t know yet. section 702. all of the wiretaps. kimberly: whether it fisa or a federal judge issued it. dana: fbi and then fisa. kimberly: then fbi did it and comey, how can he not know if his own fbi was doing that? that s another problem.
jesse: he owns the apartment, right? kennedy: why are we getting caught up in this 1950s lingo? you don t necessarily need wires in order to get all the information and conversations that you want. you can do that digitally and electronically. juan: there was no authorization from obama and no political motivation. kennedy: let s say that a fisa judge gave intelligence the intelligence apparatus the freedom to go ahead and gather some of that information. which could have been emails, phone conversations, cell phone conversations. you don t need wires to tap in. juan: but it was paul manafort. not donald trump. dana: this is all missing the point. america deserves more information about why a presidential campaign of the party out of power was being surveilled. i do think the point is that manafort never should have taken the job in the first place. this goes back to 2014.
compromising position. if you know in good faith that you have that and you will take a role for free or not, okay, with the president of united states customer gap to be very forthright and forthcoming at the you know what? dana: i don t think it s spying if you are manafort and you are dealing if you go back and look in his client list and you know the kind of things he s been involved in, yeah, you might assume. jesse: he s kind of a shady guy. kennedy: but the person who hired him to be a campaign manager also has some responsibility but i also think the president, being touched by this form of spying dana: we don t know yet. section 702. all of the wiretaps. kennedy: whether it fisa or a federal judge issued it. dana: fbi and then fisa. kimberly: then fbi did it and comey, how can he not know if his own fbi was doing that?
manafort never should have taken the job in the first place. this goes back to 2014. lots of business dealings. if it s not fisa, it s fara. if i walk into a bar in the bar is being surveilled, does that mean i am being surveilled? i think manafort was very he did it for no pay. it was very irresponsible. if they were wiretapping manafort inappropriately, fine. kennedy: but when is it appropriate? if you haven t done anything wrong, you can still be caught up. that s very problematic. kimberly: what dana said what we ve been saying is manafort what his business dealings and interactions were. and he improperly disclosed some of those and put the president and what has turned out to be a
that you want. juan: there was no authorization from obama and no political motivation. kennedy: let s say that a fisa judge gave intelligence test the intelligence apparatus the freedom to go ahead and gather some of that information. which could have been emails, phone conversations, cell phone conversations. you don t need wires to tap in. juan: but it was paul manafort. not donald trump. dana: does all missing the point. america deserves more information about why a presidential campaign of the party out of power was being surveilled. i do think the point is that manafort never should have taken the job in the first place. this goes back to 2014. lots of business dealings. if it s not fisa, it s fara. if i walk into a bar in the bar is being surveilled, does that mean i am being surveilled?