this is not just another trial, just like the super bowl s not just another game. what does that mean? i wish that the court had thought ahead of time about this environment and about the threatening environment and about fox news, you know, entertainers who decide that they re going to really post the neighborhood, the job, you know, the gender and all of that publicly in a way that says we don t like this jury. there s one social media person out there with about 2.5 million followers who clearly has malintent when he posts about the juror identities. so this should have been considered. this is not another trial, and it s going to be rough going. i m concerned. yeah, i mean, look, have to say, i want you to stick with us because i think that we re all in the political arena not numb but accustomed to the tactics of trump s allies, right, the threats of violence, the
what donald trump s not there as an observer, sitting there, you know, supporting a friend and dozes off. this is him, and he can t stay woke. so who s the sleepy old man? i got to tell you, that courtroom is cold. it was warm earlier this week, but it is so cold. i m wear a jacket in there. the should keep him awake. right. the argument from this side monday was it was so warm, everybody was tired. i hate he was more asleep on monday than he has been. he was in more like a rem-like sleep. now i got to nothing against him. i sleep everywhere but here. no one s going anywhere. i want to remind everyone what trump looks like on the stand. it s not pretty. so however this hearing turns out i imagine they re studying this tape i m going to show you. also ahead we ll talk more about that terrifying scene vaughn and sue were talking about just outside the courthouse and what it means for the start of an ex-american president s first-ever criminal trial. the first time
conference new york officials saying, look, they will have an after action report and they will look at whether any changes need to be made. here s how i was trained to look at security of events. first you have primary security concerns, in this case it would be let s secure the courthouse. let s make sure this trial happens. secondary concern, let s make sure all the people, the staff, people coming and going, that they re safe and everybody participating in the trial. there s a tertiary concern that has to be considered which is this environment presents an international platform. there are camera crews and reporters from all over the globe in new york for this, and those cameras are trained on that courthouse area. so people even without any cause that s connected to the trial will see that and be attracted to it if they feel they want that international stage. it s for similar reasons why we have an extraordinary amount of security around the super bowl. people say, well, a footba
about 100 yards away there the door who lit himself on fire. it was a couple minutes before the law enforcement was able to put out those flames. i mean, this was a difficult scene here. i want to be very clear about what we know about the man at this time. that the man is somebody from not only internet writings but also pamphlet that he had thrown just before setting himself ablaze that is a deep conspiracy theorist here. this is not directly related to donald trump s trial or even donald trump, but this is a man who is alleged a vast conspiracy that includes the american government, politicians, university, major financial figures. and i won t go further down the rabbit hole, but i can tell you this is not somebody who is a partisan. it apparently seems to be, but somebody who has gone down a rabbit hole of conspiracy theories that led them to use this mass media moment for the act that this person engaged in. of course the headline that we re looking at is the fact that we ve got a
former president on criminal trial. but i have to say those 12 people are in an unprecedented position. never in the history of this country have we had people sit in the jury box in this type of situation and also in an environment with this kind of pressure. i ll take your point that the folks that are in the jury box are largely people who went in clear eyed, but even if they had gone in clear eyed, they don t know what to expect, because we have never had a political climate. just like a couple years ago when the whistleblower backed by the full force of the federal government and everything that fwoez into protecting intelligence community members was maliciously outed by people in ret ri butted fashion. i thus they are going to need to take extraordinary measures in this case. do you think they are looking at how dwrou protect juror who is are prosecuting mob figures? right now, this jury is anonymous, so that s one step. but it wasn t completely