things now to protect the white house, which is his job. one of the things we know, jack, from the new york times reporting is that some of the episodes that mcgahn detailed for mueller s team included the president s attempt and desire to fire bob mueller last summer. you do note it s an important note. you said there s no attorney client privilege for a government lawyer, even counselor to the president. if you were the white house lawyer right now on that team, would you be concerned? i would be really concerned. i think a major error has been made here by the legal team. these guys are like outfielders who have turned their back on the field of play. they re speaking to the people in the stands. that s what the trump people are doing and appealing to the base. that s what mr. giuliani s presentation has been all about. look, the opportunity that they booted away this is somewhat in contradiction of jim s point
best thing. i agree with that, poppy, in that, yes, they could have used executive privilege as a negotiating tool on the front end. that was probably the would have been a better strategy on hindsight being 20/20. what i also think is important to note that there is still anticipate argument that executive privilege can still be asserted. you are talking the white house, which is part of the executive branch, doj, part of the executive branch. that doesn t get to a grand jury and that doesn t get to congress unless executive privilege is waived. the argument is this is deep down in the times piece that perhaps they could argue retroactively executive privilege here so it would not be included in the mueller report to go to congress. something you agree on, rudy giuliani, you both think he needs to get his story straight. jim, to you. if not a legal asset to the president right now by saying truth is not truth, is it a
story? did the president try and fire bob muler? there is nothing that i saw, witnessed, or was near that suggested that was true ever. completely made up? i didn t say it was made up. what i m saying is i didn t see anything in my tenure nor did i talk to anybody during my time that i was there that witnessed anything similar to what that was. where would that be coming from then? look, i mean, you wake up every day, there s an anonymous source that says something is happening. all i know is what i was able to witness and see. it was not that that happened. you were one of 16 people that s already spoken to the special counsel, robert mueller. do you think president trump should sit for an interview with bob mueller? i think that is a discussion president trump has to have with his attorneys and figure out what s best. i think the president has made clear he wants this to go away. why wouldn t he? i think once you go down rabbit holes that s a lot of things but thi
going to be fair? i have never discussed anything personal with respect to that. i would say so far that would lead me to believe they have not done anything as far as the investigation goes. you believe bob mueller and his team have been fair? i don t think bob muler from everything i ve read and seen in media reports has done anything that has seemed to exhibit a bias at this point. steve wynn retired as finance chair this weekend. a report he s been involved in decades long practices of sexual harassment. this is a statement from ronna mcdaniel. today i accepted steve wynn s
associate carter page was acting as a russian agent. isn t that a risky strategy for republicans here in publicizing that fact? look, again, i haven t seen it. you haven t seen it. do you believe carter page was acting as a russian agent? no, but i don t think carter page acted as anything but a clown. so i don t know what he said he s done or not done during the part in which i was present for the campaign and through the transition i never saw the guy. i never had any communication. i don t know anybody that did. i think he acts like a clown. i think the statement he gave proves my point. but that being said we should be very careful about what we release and how we release it. let s talk about russia for a moment. nbc news and others have confirmed this new york times story the president wanted to fire bob mueller last summer, only didn t do it when his counsel stepped in and said, i ll go if you try. you were in the white house at the time. i was. can you corroborate