on this big stage too. before i tee up this final clip, i want to remind all the viewers we are looking now at carly fiorina. she is the next candidate to get the tour of the stage. she again will be on the main stage. we all talk so much about her a couple of debates past and having that strong performance, the fiorina moment. so carly fiorina there standing behind the podium where she will be taking folks on this evening. final note, this is pause we talked quite a bit about marco rubio, this is an exchange between marco rubio and rand paul. this was last month s fox business debate. how is it conservative to add a trillion dollar expenditure for the federal government that you re not paying for? how is it conservative to add a trillion dollars in military expenditures? you cannot be a conservative if you re going to keep promoting new programs that you re not going to pay for. may i respond? quickly, senator. we can t even have an economy if we re not safe. there are rad
democrats? have that carly moment and really break through and we witnessed that by the wednesday/thursday headlines? i m not sure that that s the right analogy. i m not sure that any of the others, chaffee, webb or o malley, are going to get a chance or should try and create a chance that is a fiorina moment. that was a very personal thing between her and donald trump that happened, and she was entirely justified in doing what she did, and it was smart and she pulled it off well. i m not sure that, you know, a martin o malley really stands to gain by going after, let s say, hillary clinton. i think he just needs to introduce himself to the american people, most of whom really don t know he exists yet. and the same for webb and chaffee. they just have to present their best selves and hope that people, hope the people like them. but i wouldn t look for any fireworks like you have seen with fiorina and trump. is it make or break for chaffee and webb tonight? no. there will be other
areas. he need to make a distinction between critiquing someone and attacking them. i won t say there will be contrast but they will focus more on issues and substance rather than the sort of volatile slug fest. i just think bernie is wrong. mark, let me ask you about this point of martin o malley inspect he is, obviously, on the stage. the difference between the democrats and republicans because of the number of candidates but 1% for the republicans were in a completely different debate. martin o malley will be standing next to hillary clinton, the front-runner. what does he have to do? there are some who says he needs a fiorina moment. i needs to shoot his shot. he needs to go extremely strong. carly fiorina was in a race the voters weren t confident about anybody, even the people at the top like jeb bush were far from strong candidates in terms of having the nomination locked up. here, it s hillary s race to lose. so martin o malley has to be extremely strong and be extremel
way, now is the chance to get the idea of america back. did you do anything exciting or interesting this morning to prepare? i had a great breakfast of cold pizza and diet coke. i m happy to be here. campaign breakfast. that sounds like a square meal. so interesting how they ve all been how does he stay so thin? diet coke! i m sorry. you were going to say something. make your point about him. my point is i think i would rather be bobby jindal tonight than be rand paul or chris christie. because? because they re getting a lot of attention, four of them, for 90 minutes on that stage. there is a carly fiorina opportunity. who will have the fiorina moment. by the way, if he says something outrageous about trump, you know, it could bleed into the next debate. absolutely. it certainly could become fodder for that. but on the stage, this is what i was talking about, is that it s intimate. these are not sort of people who are going to stand up and go,
fiorina moment, and i know john kasich is good on the economy, so i m interested to hear what he s going to say. it s going to be interesting. i m not going to pick on the former debate, but this should be about the economy, we should hear some really good questions. harris: you know, i look at the engine that drives this economy, and i would ask you, sandra, how much focus you think there might be on small businesses, because we ve talked about here on the couch that the person who s in that oval office really impacts the lives of people who run the country when it comes to doing the most hiring. to who s the most friendly to so who s the most friendly to small businesses? harris, small business, the engine of growth in america, and they want to talk about taxes, regulations that have stifled their ability to do business and hire more workers. so we want to talk about the income tax rate, but we also want to talk about the corporate tax rate in this country. because we ve talked a