unbelievably strong an principled, and just brilliantly the struggle, if you will a reason for hope in the darkness, i guess. one of those sparks of hope representative justin joins us gonna join us tonight. and so very glad to have reverend warnock kind of leading into that. yes, what a ticket. thank, you alex on this day, this very day, 60 years ago, the reverend dr martin luther king junior wa arrested along with 55 other and was jailed and birmingham, alabama. the notorious segregationist will conor ordered the arres of dr. martin luther king on april 12th, 1963, four, quote, parading without a permit. that was during a protes against segregation in birmingham dr. martin luther king was sentenced to a birmingham jail after the united auto worker paid his 160,000 dollar bail back, dr. king was release from that jail, eight days later. on april 20th. while in that jail, dr. king was in a dark cell, alone, wit no mattress, and was denied an phone calls. he was smuggled
northern ireland in the 25 years of peace young people, like amy clint, born in 2000, whose parent like to tell a story about how she came home from her first day of secondary school an asked what s the differenc between a protestant and a catholic what s the difference between protestant and a catholic? she didn t grow up thinking in sectarian divides. joining us now, finta o toole, columnist and write for the irish times. he is the author of the ne york times bestselling book we don t know ourselves, personal history of modern ireland. and fintan o toole, for us it pretty surprising that a kid could now grew up in belfast and get all the way to hig school before wondering what s the difference between a protestant and catholic. and when i heard that question today i thought, oh, there is question, there is a questio for o toole tonight.