possible to show transparency, even to give this to congress little into the public, the president seemingly unconcerned about what the conclusions may show. we were told yesterday that he was glad that this part of the investigation is over. he spent the morning and part of the afternoon on the golf course. last night at mar-a-lago he was hosting a lincoln day dinner. in a video taken by a guest in the crowd, the president seems to be in a great mood. there we see him with the first lady at his side. joking about the keynote speaker, senator lindsey graham. listen. two reasons. number one, he s a great speaker. in the number two he s not saying anything bad about me. [laughter] the president an expansive mood as the process goes forward there s a chance that barr may have to run the conclusions by the white house counsel and the men you see
that is you know, did special counsel come to the conclusion that no crimes were committed that were provable that could be brought? or did he make a determination that with regard to the president, it was not appropriate to bring charges because department of justice policy that would have precluded it. i suspect the answer to the question is that he found insufficient evidence. and it is a substantial finder because that of course covers not only the collision mandate but also with regard to obstruction of justice. therefore, i disagree with democratic senators that say well you know, just because robert mueller finish the investigation and didn t find criminal wrongdoing relative collusion to obstruction of justice, doesn t mean we shouldn t be pursuing it. hogwash, that s baloney. a well-founded article of impeachment would have to constitute a high crime or misdemeanor. if there is not a criminal violation with regard to obstruction of justice, or collision however, anyone wants t
dissemination to congress and public. jon: to reiterate we said you don t think that congress will find anything robert mueller didn t already take a look at? tequesta certainly have the ability to conduct an investigation on their own if they choose to do so. what i don t think they can do that was just issue a blanket subpoena to the justice department and say essentially, give me everything you have. they can do it but it will be met with an objection. even if the objection were to be challenged and faced a court proceeding, i imagine that a court will overrule any effort by the congress to obtain that information. jon: robert ray, former whitewater independent counsel. thanks very much. you bet. jon: is taking close to two years for special counsel robert mueller to wrap up the investigation. two years of waiting and all the debating. you may have forgotten how it all began. just what brought us to this point? a report on that next.
the suggestion that there was collusion, from everything that we have seen, utterly un-meritorious. it was just without foundation. so let s say, close the chapter on that. let s deal with russia, the real threat. the collision, there wasn t, no public evidence of any collusion whatsoever. but the russian interests are indeed a threat. and no one has ever denied that russia was at that but was there collusion between the trump campaign and russia does not seem to be any evidence of that. it appears the answer to that question is definitively no. there are other issues that obviously this investigation spawned. one of which was the question about obstruction of justice. i think it is appropriate for the american people now to wonder. this is why we are awaiting to see what would be released out of the mueller report. to congress and ultimately to the american people.
of jumping to conclusions or room ring innuendo. jon: you don t think this will be the end of it on capitol hill? it will just open up a new chapter of investigation and arguing? after listening to some of my colleagues, i ve only been in the house for two months now. but after listening to some of them, they will keep on going as long as they get the free airtime. they will fill the air with more hot air. jon: congressman, ben klein, republican from virginia and member of the judiciary committee, thank you. thank you. jon: we will have much more reaction to the conclusion of the mueller investigation and what to expect when the attorney general sends that highly anticipated letter to lawmakers. that s next.