governor and current republican presidential candidate george pata pataki. nice to see new person. i know you ve been on the campaign trail. so let s talk about this. you were governor of new york during 9/11. your reaction to donald trump and the pointing of finger blame at the former president. thomas, my reaction is donald trump is like an eighth-grade schoolyard bully spewing nonsense. i would have stopped september 11th if i was president. i ll beat china. i ll make mexico build and pay for a wall. this is all complete nonsense. and more than you that wonder why all of a sudden he s going after bush when it was clinton, the clintons had been in power for eight years before september 11th. so i don t know what he s doing. i just think it makes it plain that this man is not someone who should be president. i know we had michael steele talking to my colleague andrea mitchell in the last hour giving a little contrast here saying pearl harbor you can t blame fdr about that. is this