learn best practices. compare that to the uk, where earlier this month, it was reported that a campaign to encourage household energy saving had been scrapped by number 10. we are joined by stew horne, head of policy at energy saving trust, an independent organisation focused on energy policy in government and regulation. why do you think that was scrapped? well, i think what we ve seen in europe is a lot of european countries really thinking very deeply about the worst energy crisis in a generation all across europe. and we see those countries put a lot of thought into planning and launching public information campaigns, so thinking about the way they can support people to use less energy over the winter. we haven t had that kind of discussion here. we think that would be very valuable. we know how powerful public