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and does it continue that the parties don t seem to be getting along very well? does it refer back to the orders of july 24, 1995? and does it indicate that the petitioner failed to cooperate in making travel arrangements to send the children to the respondent for thanksgiving? jon: also taking the witness stand, a friend of triano s who was with him on the day of explosion and described in graphic detail what he saw. when i got this car, the top of his car was gone and i didn t see gary at first and then when i finally did find gary, he was in the driver s side slumped over and it was just a mess. his right arm and hand were gone and there were other pieces of his seems like of his body were missing, all on the right-hand side.
here a trial witness describes the scene. there was no smoke, no fire. and when i got this car, it was gone. i didn t see gary at first. when i finally did find gary, he was in the driver s side slumped ov over. heather hanson is a defense attorney, and here to talk about this case, good to see you, heather. there s so much aen watt to cover. i want to talk about this. a 17-year-old murder case here, i wanted to ask, who has the bigger burden of proof, defense or prosecution? we were talking earlier how you recently discovered the victim s children, the deceased man and philli phillips, they had two children together. the children sued the mother for wrongful death in 2009 and they were awarded $10 million.