cancer looks like. exactly. but i think it was it was so lard to see her like that, that that s the first reaction you get. but i think that is so much of what your talent is. you know what the public is interested in seeing, listening to. that was that was all of us saw ourselves in tammy faye, because that s a bullet nobody knows if it s coming at you. larry: the key to being a producer. finger on the pulse. that s your talent. larry: why do people come on and talk about you talk about things on television so others can relate. so that but usually, i talk about something, i like to be on the other side of it. i like to fig ter out so that i have a solution. so that s not just, i have a problem. i always like to have a solution and then i usually have a book. larry: by the way a book, this is a terrific book. it s a terrific book. larry: a great book.