crunching the numbers in the commercial break. the lead there is narrowing. what does that tell you? this is a race. a lot of people in our industry have been trying to write the obituary for the desantis campaign and a sign he is feared by what you might call the liberal media establishment. so i think you are seeing this in a number of polls in iowa and new hampshire. wherever trump is below 50 and in this case far below 50, if you are desantis you are thinking once this field thins out a little, all those people who are supporting all those other candidates and they aren t supporting many of them in great numbers, those are probably desantis votes. once those other people drop out. bill: here is where desantis can do himself some good. that is at our debate on august 23rd, if he is on stage and performs well, maybe those
party candidate, once that field thins. is that your thinking? i think carly fiorina and ben carson have a not long term shelf line. in the end, i think the republicans want to win white house and there s a sense that the two candidates while they do get everyone very excited within the party really couldn t do it in the end. and beat hillary clinton or whoever the democrat is. the question really is, there s always been this sort of opening about who the conservative challenger is in a republican presidential primary. this year it s different. this year the question is who s the sort of broadly acceptable establishment candidate? it was supposed to be jeb bush but he hasn t gone where everybody thought he would. he has all the money and the establishment support but he doesn t have the votes which are the most important thing in a presidential primary. i think that s where the contest is right now. it s jeb bush, potentially marco rubio. i think carly fiorina kind of fits into that
interrupting as we were talking questions along the way, i don t think any of those issues can be addressed until you can secure the border and enforce the laws. people are misunderstanding i m saying that until you secure the border, and enforce the laws, any discussion about anything else is really looking past the very things we have to do. so, john, what did you make of the governor s response overall to your questions? and do you think he has better survivability as the gop field thins? you mean donald trump or scott walker? scott walker. you know, scott walker is beginning to be tested in a way that he hasn t been tested in his political career previously, as governor of michigan or milwaukee county executive. i think you saw a politician there under stress. we saw it all week. when he was out in iowa, donald trump released his plan. he was taking questions. he seemed to indicate, and