what does it say that we are essentially in the same exact place now so many years later? it means that we as a nation have failed. it s as simple as that, we have failed. we have understood that these issues have existed even long before that 2001 memorandum by this then young deputy attorney general. these are issues we ve been dealing with for generations. this is why we need to seize this opportunity we now have. we have a moment in time that we can perhaps come up with some meaningful change. it s what i m committed to doing even with the limited time i have left as attorney general and i ll do it after i leave office. you can see joy s full interview with eric holder tomorrow on the reid report, that s 2:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. the fallout continues from the smoking guns report in the ferguson grand jury. it might notice be something you have seen at michael brown s shooting, an attorney for the michael brown family will be here ahead. are co2 emissions reduced?
tonight, we re hearing from the most controversial witness of the ferguson grand jury. in an interview with a local paper, witness number 40 says, quote, have i ever used the n-word? yeah, i have. and that s just the beginning. turns out the feds had big problems with a version of events, but the local prosecutor called her to testify anyway. that s next. [ female announcer ] you get sick, you can t breathe through your nose.
insinuated herself into another high profile st. louis criminal case with claims that police eventually dismissed as a complete fabrication. keep in mind this is the same witness who, by her account, in journal pages that were given to the grand jury wrote she witnessed the shooting of michael brown and in the final moments of his life, quote, the cop just stood there and dang if that kid didn t start running right at the cop like a football player head down, end quote. if you follow this story that quote may be familiar. it made witness 40 a favorite on fox news, which repeated that quote, like a football player, all the time. the reason witness 40 was brought before the grand jury because she was brought by bob mcculloch. his office called her despite this amble evidence we ve seen that witness 40 may not have witnessed brown s death at all. we ve not heard back on this one. joining me now is anthony gray, the attorney for the family of michael brown. good evening to you, sir.
place now so many years later? it means that we as a nation have failed. it s as simple as that, we have failed. we have understood that these issues have existed even long before that 2001 memorandum by this then young deputy attorney general. these are issues we ve been dealing with for generations. this is why we need to seize this opportunity we now have. we have a moment in time that we can perhaps come up with some meaningful change. it s what i m committed to doing even with the limited time i have left as attorney general and i ll do it after i leave office. you can see joy s full interview with eric holder tomorrow on the reid report, that s 2:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. the fallout continues from the smoking guns report in the ferguson grand jury. it might not be something you have seen at michael brown s shooting, an attorney for the michael brown family will be here ahead.
in front of that grand jury. every prosecutor i know who s worth her salt says the same thing. again, it s not just because we re so great, it s because you control the grand jury. the defense attorney is not in the room. you don t have to present evidence of innocence. all you have to do is put on this minimal case. so, again, if this prosecutor had wanted an indictment, just like the prosecutor in the garner case, they both would have got,ten indictments. now, you re a former prosecutor. you re not an agitator, race baiter, head of the civil rights group, all the other adjectives they give us. you re saying as a former prosecutor, if this prosecutor wanted to get an indictment and have an open jury trial where we could have seen guilt or innocence, because we don t know where it would have gone, but at least it would have proceeded, you re saying if he wanted that process to go, he could have done it. oh, absolutely. the standard is so low, probable cause, the jurors don t have t