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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110730:21:32:00

wanted him to wake up. but i made my way back to the house. reporter: back to her mother. i think she hugged me and told me she loved me. reporter: that was supposed to make it okay. yeah. reporter: but did it? no. reporter: what happened then? i had to go into the room. and the smell was still there. reporter: the smell of what? gunpowder. and i didn t look at him. i just grabbed the end of my sheet and did as i was told. reporter: the sheet he was lying on. pulled him down the hall. she had one end, i had the other. reporter: right. and he was too heavy. he was so heavy. reporter: this is where you got in close. i had to touch him. reporter: what did it feel like? he was still warm. reporter: but very obviously dead? yeah. reporter: but she was not finished then. not even close. her mother, she said, had

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110730:21:33:00

another job for her. she says, well, we got to lift him up and put him in the trunk. and i had to grab him under his legs. he was so heavy. and we got him in there and she just shut the lid. closed the latches. and we drug it up back and put it next to the house. reporter: out the door on the porch? stacked some boxes on it. reporter: judy rented a carpet cleaner. kim helped her clean the blood off the floors. she scrubbed the blood off the wall. she made it look normal. but that trunk kept sitting there on the porch. what did she do with it? a couple days before she murdered him, she told the boys that we were going to plant a peach tree out back, so to dig a big hole to put the tree in.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110730:21:47:00

fragments, all that was left of lloyd ford. police were able to determine that at least ten members of judy s family had helped keep the secret. in your experience, when that many people are aware of such a dark thing, does it stay hidden for very long? no. that s what was puzzling to us. how it was kept quiet for that long. reporter: it suggests a measure of control over those folks which would be unusual. very much so. reporter: but the statute of limitations applied now. only one person could be held accountable. only judy. and thus the law would ensure that kim s awful secret would be exposed in court, the crime revealed, justice served. but would it be justice? or even the whole truth? kim had turned on judy. but this mother hadn t quite finished yet with her daughter. i know she was screaming, do it, do it, do it. just do it. reporter: coming up

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110730:21:07:00

your father s father assumed that he abandoned him, too, and everybody. it was very hard on my grandfather. my grandfather would come in almost every week and to give me updates on, you know, had we heard anything. the detective hadn t found anything. he was following leads, but nothing was coming up. reporter: they heard stories. he moved to michigan. he boarded a plane and never made his connection. even a story that he was on mount st. helens when it erupted. sandy and her sister pam longed for answers, a phone call even, but there was nothing. where was their father? whatever happened to lloyd ford? here s a hint. sandy didn t know the family s secret, nor did pam. but kimberly did. she knew all about it. where lloyd went and why. because she was there.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110730:21:30:00

bedroom, which i didn t like, because we weren t allowed in there. if she had been in there prior, checking on him and whatnot, at some point had put him on the floor on a sheet. and i really didn t know exactly how she was going to do it until i walked in and saw the gun at the end of the bed. and she went over and turned up the stereo really loud and she said it would cover the noise. first, she asked me to pull the trigger. reporter: she gave you the gun? no, no, she was holding it. reporter: she was holding the gun. pointed at him. right. reporter: where at him? at his chest. then she said, well, help me pull the trigger. and i basically refused to do it. and i started screaming at her, what do you want? what do you want from me? what do you want me to do. and she said, just cover my ears. and so i put my hands on either

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