of the coal industry. so let me get in here and get your response to what gary cohn is saying, right, because he s one of the president s top guys. he s the director of the white house national economic council. mm-hmm. here s what he said on air force one within the week he said coal doesn t even make that much sense anymore as a feed stop, meaning what is used in the raw materials that s converted into fuel, he went on to say natural gas is quote such a cleaner fuel and he said if you think about how solar and how much wind power we have in the united states, we can be a manufacturing powerhouse and still be environmentally friendly. that is in stark contrast to what the president himself is saying. so what gives? look, i believe in a kind of all of the above. i think whatever is the most efficient should be used. there s no question. think about this, poppy, ten years ago natural gas was like $10 per million cubic feet so now it s like three. it s been reduced so much in cos