make a safe return home miguel almaguer, msnbc news. we have a lot to cover in our second hour of chris jansing reports. let s get right to it. at this hour, new details in the growing story coming out of the doj that we just broke on msnbc minutes ago. what we know about the two people arrested for operating an illegal overseas police station of the chinese government right here in lower manhattan. plus, inside a massive prisoner swap in ukraine a live report on the ground where more than 100 prisoners of war were just released as part of the major exchange with russia what kevin mccarthy calls a ticking time bomb. the republican leaders no holds bars speech on the country s debt before the new york stock exchange plus, the white house responds a very different view of the problem by the biden administration and their take on the upcoming debt ceiling battle our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments let s begin with house speaker kevin mc
joist, clearly there is that political statement there, you know, and obviously premised on an incorrect premise about how crime is running rampant in new york but could it influence anything legally as well? it really won t it s not much more than a raw effort to abuse political power, and we see this with the justice department, when doj is subpoenaed for information about ongoing criminal cases, they refuse to do so, as they should. we have the separation of powers in this country that prohibits members of congress from trying to influence criminal prosecutions you could imagine how bad that could get if every member of congress had the ability to interfere with the prosecution of one of their friends. here it s worse, there s this federalism aspect. congress has no legitimate ability to oversee the work of state and local prosecutors, so the raw politics here on full display and the timing makes that plain this hearing was announced after
you know anything about kevin? he was appointed by trump in 2017. he has an incredible personal story. cared for his disabled sister who recently passed away. kind of in the mold of justice thomas. it s incredible list of people but newsome i think is the kind of guy that trump would like. they would personally get along really well. he is a fellow state solicitor general . we appreciate the federalism aspect. laura: he would be a good person to respond. this is another comment by jeffrey toobin today about what is at stake with this particular nomination. let s talk facts. let s talk about what america is going to be like. you are going to see 20 states passed laws banning abortion outright. robie wade is doomed.
he has an incredible personal story. cared for his disabled sister who recently passed away. kind of in the mold of justice thomas. it s an incredible list of people, but newsom i think is the kind of guy that trump would like. they would personally get along really well. he is a fellow state solicitor general. we appreciate the federalism aspect. laura: he would be a good person to respond. this is another comment by jeffrey toobin today about what is at stake with this particular nomination. let s talk facts. let s talk about what america is going to be like. that s different. you are going to see 20 states pass laws banning abortion outright. row v. wade is doomed. it s gone because donald trump won the election.
that kind of thing. that s an idea that has a lot of support among republicans, just for the sort of federalism aspect of it. and now it seems to be getting a little bit of traction with the white house. we know lindsey graham was there on friday, selling the plan. i m told by an administration official it was moderately well-received. and bill cassidy is going to the white house today. the other advantage that this bill has, it s sort of the next last serious republican idea that s been committed to paper. but hasn t been scored by the cbo or voted on yet. but the cbo is looking at it now. so it could be kind of the next serious idea to get a good look. well, there s also this bipartisan plan that s being introduced today, what, by a coalition of 40 house republicans and democrats. what s that about? reporter: that s right. so this plan also has things in it that republicans and democrats really each like separately. it brings those cost-sharing payments under the purview of congr