is under seal and will not be available to the public. some day that may change. till that happens, we have to ask people who were there what they saw. joining us now is josh gerstein, senior reporter at politico. thank you very much for being here. hey, good to be back with you. was it frustrating or fascinating or both when things sort of took off out of ear shot and in some cases out of ith in the courtroom today? well, it was surprising the way things kind of screeched to a halt as you were talking about earlier, we had been moving at a breakneck case with the judge pressuring prosecutors to keep it short, keep it short and cut all their witnesses down sometimes spending maybe half as much time as they had intended. to ten then see the judge consume about five hours today with proceedings that were either being held at sidebar or in secret in the judge s chambers was a pretty startling development. i would say it was interesting but at the same time,
sentiment toward the president. but people in the white house also feel that kelly is very dismiss of trump when trump is out of ear shot and when he s around lawmakers on capitol hill, or other cabinet secretaries and what not. this could there is a movie we have seen before where the president and his chief of staff, he doesn t liking to managed, it is a terrible position to be in, no one can do it successfully with the president and have it come away what they don t look like what they re managing here. your take away, kelly is there to stay or days are numbered? i don t think this means that kelly is on the chopping block, he s going to be replaced next week or anything. we have seen as a pattern in the past, when the president gets frustrated with someone, he keeps them around and later on will push them out after several months of publicly going after them or as you saw kelly on fox news said that the president has evioolved on his views on immigration. i think we ll see mo
4:28 p.m., the senate floor. senator mccain approaches senators murkowski and cornyn. after a few moments, cornyn moves on. we have no idea what they re discussing, but their body language appears emphatic. mccain seems to motion you and i. prying eyes within ear shot, the two move in closer. they continue their exchange as voting proceeds. mr. thune. aye. reporter: just a few feet away, majority leader mitch mcconnell in a huddle. with him, senator lindsey graham. not only the co-sponsor of this new bill, but mccain s best friend in the senate. senator thune can t help notice the deep dialogue taking place. then senator burr stops to take a look. mr. sullivan, mr. sullivan, aye. mr. portman. mr. portman, ave. reporter: 4:33, still talking.
message. what i learned in politics, i spent 21 years in washington, these things aren t the fault of the staff typically the fault of the principal. if the principal creates the environment where everyone in the staff knows you tell me and keep it in this room, you ll have a fair ear shot with me. as soon as people think whoever influences the boss last will win their way, the system creates a system to go around the boss and filter it out. nobody has done that here. this has been a leak proof transition. you have people that are in the room are very tight and are not leaking things out. this is what kellyanne conway was doing that went public with this, what she was really saying was send me reinforcements. i m losing the battle to stop romney. i need other people to chime in from the outside to stop my boss. doesn t she hurt her cause when he said her boss betrayed
there? well, i am being held a few hundred meters away umt ffrom t theater. we hear special forces i can t confirm that because the police are holding us far away. there is a huge amount of emergency vehicles, a huge amount of ambulances and fire trucks piled up. so they are clearly preparing something. we heard reports of automatic gun fire, of five distinct explosions from in there. are you within ear shot of any of that? no. i m not within ear shot. i m not. and what have you witnessed just we are looking at these live pictures on french television, hard to know what we are seeing beyond the fact that police vehicles, police, fire, military are just whizzing by all night long. i have never seen such a show of force in paris before.