countdown to the lifting of title 42. at 11:59 p.m. eastern, that s 9:59 p.m. here in el paso, the pandemic era border restrictions that allowed the u.s. to expel millions of migrants without allowing them to make asylum claims will go away. i am right here in the central part of el paso, on oregon street, sacred heart church is right beside me. i want to kind of give you perspective using our drone and this extraordinary team we have here on msnbc just where and how close we are to the mexican side. this is the church. this is oregon street. this goes right into downtown el paso and take a look at just maybe a block from where we are. that s the bridge, the international bridge that connects el paso to juarez where for generations thousands and thousands of people have used that bridge to cross through el paso and juarez. it s almost like one city divided by the border. people come and go to school on one side. they do their shopping on the other. they live in the other. it
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is there hope for her, for example, in her case? well, for that s one of the differences happening with title 8 and title 42 about they are going to be processed under title 8 there is going to be repercussions in the future, criminal, civil and immigration repercussions in the future. for her it s possible, yes, if they put them through the credible fear process. it s difficult now and changes after 42. what do you see happening after 42 ends? so, 42, once 42 ends title 8 goes into effect but yesterday the biden administration announced there is going to be stricter policies we think will make it hard are for those seeking asylum and so, you know, the open borders as the mayor was saying it s not true. we think the new policies that the biden administration is putting into effect will make it a lot harder. i m wondering, cynthia, you were born and raised here, you
well, there are two and here s the email. oh, of course. there are two standards that are utilized in this process, credible fear process. the first one is the significant possibility standard. it s a very low standard. that s why you see 77% coming through. and yet when they go before immigration, judges only about 15%, less than one fifth, are actually found to meet the credible fear standards. so we have two legal standards with dramatically different outcomes and the first is not serving, frankly, as an effective filter for the second. it s something we talked to congress about sipgtly and it s part of why the pipeline gets clogged because those people are kept out of what had been the traditional process utilized really by the border patrol because others didn t have to be involved in it right at the border. so i ve got the law here. it s u.s. code 1158 on asylum.