before trying to do replacing obamacare and repealing it charlie, i see you moving. very important here is the fact that i would argue that this bill, because it includes the individual mandate, does an awful lot to accomplish donald trump s entire legislative agenda. kimberly: that s true. in this single bill. that s both politically and i think pragmatically. i think it s a huge deal for republicans and for donald trump. kimberly: that s why i think it should have come first. how do you counter that austan? i don t counter that the president had started with infrastructure, he actually could have gotten a lot of democrats on his side. you guys just want to spend money. that s all you ever want to do. that s why they call them tax and spend democrats, austan, because you guys are good at like spending it but then what is there to show for it? this bill they are trying to put money back to people to let them decide and have economic power. you guys are going to i real
more to keep the president s base behind him and it s the democrats hope that we talk about this and not talk about the tax cuts that we re doing. not talking about the individual mandate that s being repealed in this tax cut bill. not talking about the jobs that are going to be created by opening up anwr. this bill is historic and significant that s going to pass tonight. but, yet, the democrats hope we continue talking about this investigation. americans don t seem to be by buying it hillary kimberly, i m sorry. because, yeah, i have hillary on the brain. kimberly: i know. goodness. because the latest poll show that 53 or 54% think that it s tainted. it s corrupt. and even larger number think that, you know, the fbi and the department of justifiable are hiding things from the american public. and from congress. so, you know, the american public, you know, they are smart people. they noe that the deck seems to be stacked. all you have to do is look at the people that mueller
unpopular is not because the republicans used the wrong words to describe it it s because what s in it. and that s why the american people do not like it. and this is you guys are wrong. you are diluting yourselves if you think this is not going to be hung around the next of republicans. i m sure democrats will try. but i also think that you, austan, and nancy pelosi suffer from ptsd after passing obamacare. which is a terrible bill and everybody hated it and democrats lost a thousand seats, the only person who managed to win re-election off of obamacare was obama himself and he was a very special, unique candidate who appealed to people. that was a tough moment. but i will remind that you obamacare is now twice as popular as this tax bill. well, you know, messaging is not republicans. kimberly: popularity of president tends to go up after they left office. okay. but i think this is going to be. if you look at that time it. president trump was able to bring together this. i t
and if it works, if what they say, if the stimulus does kick start the economy, republicans will be in very, very good shape. not only in two years or in one year but also in three years. if it fails to do that, and it really is just a tax cuts for the rich and the rich just get richer and middle class doesn t feel the benefits from this, then they are going to be in real trouble. kimberly: you were echelon not getting the benefits. corporate tax cuts. the majority of this is coming for lower and middle class families. not true at all. not even remotely true. the majority of this bill, more than 80% of the money is going to high income people and big corporation. and by the time it s fully phased in, literally 53% of americans are going to have their taxes higher than they are now. because they are phasing out all of those middle class tax cuts that you are promoting. if the reason this bill is
major done by the end of the year. they have gotten this done in a couple of months. put the pedal to the metal if you will. this could be a dramatic victory for the president. it did not come though without a hiccup. the house voted earlier today to move this tax cut forward. get it over to the senate. as i mentioned, but then the parliamentarian in the senate realized that there were some provisions that were included in the house version of the bill that ran afoul of parliamentary rules, budget rules that basically shield this bill from a democratic filibuster to keep it that you would need a simple majority of 51 instead of 60 votes. the bottom line the senate will move forward with this tweaked version of the bill, clean out some of those small provisions. they are likely to pass it about 11:30, midnight tonight. and then the house will come back and vote on this new version of the bill early tomorrow morning. the bottom line is what s more important than the process is the substa