with an argument about the filibuster. yeah, i mean, e.j., to norm s point that we ve seen failed attempts at bipartisan agreement before, that made a lot of people think at the beginning of this process oh, we ve seen this before. we know what s going to happen. but joe biden has seen it before. chuck schumer has seen it before. and every democratic senator has seen it before. and they are all so much the wiser this time around. which is why i ve been betting on them getting it right this time. because they know just how slippery the other side can be on this. and that s what schumer has been doing with the insisting on having these votes, because he s not going to let them run out, just let the calendar run out. i love norm s term faux fandango, a political science term i think. i think the word that democrats
done. now, what if this is after both infrastructure bills have passed, and virtually all of the first term biden agenda has passed, the stakes about what will then get done after some change of senate rules become very different. they do, but first, you have to get through this period of getting this big infrastructure bills through. so i think progressives, all democrats, have to not put carpet before the horse here. so there are a lot of flexibility to do things. on the filibuster, a little down the road. i think what he s talking about is if you did something precipitous now, you would upset an awful lot of senators, and not just the manchin and sinema on the democratic side, there are a lot of democratic senators who are worried about
bill fails is because of the archaic s of the filibuster rules, joe biden cannot be in the position to say, well the filibuster really matters more to me then this historic effort to guarantee the right to vote. and i think the reason is common at that town hall, troubled a lot of people is not because he tried to kick the issue down the road, which i think everybody understands for the reasons you described, but he really went into a detailed defense of the filibuster and said, there would be chaos if we got rid of the filibuster. wove is gonna be chaos if we don t fix our voting rights rules. that s why he got the pushback. i think the pushback is useful, because you use the right term, he is a moment of truth for biden the country then when they face up to the problem of voting rights and they are just democrats are going to have to do it.
but joe biden has seen it before. chuck schumer has seen it before. and every democratic senator has seen it before. and they are all so much the wiser this time around, which is why you have been betting on them getting it right this time because they know just how slippery the other side can be on this and that s why achievements been doing with the insisting on having these votes, because he is not going to let the calendar run out. i love norm s term, faux fandango, that s a political science term, i think. and the word that democrats repeat to themselves every ten minutes is, obamacare. they remember what happened in 2010. they remember republicans saying, well if you give us this amendment, maybe it will vote for it. and if you give us that, maybe will vote for it. and they extended the time of negotiation farther and farther out across the longer a process