incredibly cooperative on. and why that s important, chris, he was the one guy in the campaign that was in those meetings from the very beginning all the way through. all the kushner meetings, all the family meetings, all the people who were kind of around the president at the campaign in new york. and he had his own problems in russia prior to all of that. and then he went into the white house. that tells me that there is that trail if i were the former fbi guy, that trail becomes really important to coming to some conclusion on this investigation. you know, harry, jared kushner s name always comes up when people go through cycles of disclosure with the mueller probe, names that are relevant. we ve never seen meat on the bones until now because flynn, talking about sanctions, well, kushner was in one of those meetings with kislyak. he wound up having a second meeting set up by the ambassador and some russian businessmen. and the israeli discussion that you had with flynn and kisly
save the kennedy name and all of that. we tell the truth, at least our version of it. it ends with an appeal to the people that elected me. we need to remind them that this family perseveres that we don t back down from a fight, that we don t get backed into a corner. we have a true compass and we follow it. martha: i can imagine that you re sitting there wondering. that was hard to watch, but not unknown to most people who lived through the kennedy era. most politicians have those types of personal family meetings to negotiate strategy, but it was a little hard. we kept thinking that he would make a right decision, but he had plenty of chances to do that. he just didn t do it. martha: third is a suggestion that she didn t drown, that she suffocated and was alive for a long time and
feels to be back in their old home. their grandmother threatens to marry them off on the spot if they don t give the right answer. would look like it s nice to see my grandmother again she used to. want to continue going to school and getting good grades in repeated later i d like to be an air hostess when i was pissed. and then off the grandmother is happy but these kinds of family meetings are always a balancing act for josephine. and they are well they re going forward in school to sleep well they study then it s been doing. to come back to where they came from but you do this to remind them where they came from and so they don t forget their background so that also encourages them to work they have to make things better than if i had one of their number one. and then suddenly
his mother makes him cereal. he puts his backpack on, opens the door and sees i.c.e. agents surrounding his home and his mother disappears. here s a little more about what he had to say. take a listen. please help my mom because she s going through a rough time. she s been fighting this case for a long time, and we really want her to stay here. you were telling me about what your biggest fear is. what is that fear? for my mom to just go away all of a sudden. it s really scary to not have your mom with you. she was the one that gave birth to you. she was the one that took care of you since you were born. and nothing that loves you, cares about you just disappears. this fear of deportation is very real for this family. those three american-born children have had family meetings with their mother. they say they all know what to
different views on faith or on the world than they did? she was muslim and so are they. it s the same view. i don t know, chris. i mean, it s just hard to digest what the attorneys are saying where they re saying how can they be connected when authorities say that their house was like a bomb-making factory. is this willful blindness that these attorneys are exercising? well, two things. one, he says that once the guy got married, they didn t see him as often. they saw him at family meetings, not necessarily at the house. second, it has to be noted, the family is not under any umbrella of suspicion so far as we know from the investigators. all of their dealings with them have been voluntary. that is since the mother was first detained by authorities. and that was a little bit of a difficult process. we don t have any reason to point finger beyond what we re hearing right now, certainly the investigators haven t given any proof for it. fascinating to hear from