i think it s a fact. it s a fallacy of causation. you are saying that because he was illegal, he committed the crime. not the case. jason: if some in your home and then murders you, what do you think would happen if he didn t break into your home? right, so if these these equivocation s, the strawman arguments aren t useful to the conversation. jason: it s not a strawman. we have a dead woman. and it s a tragedy for the family and they ve asked that her death not a political issues based on this because jason: it s the number one issue facing voters. tom, jump in. an s actions is not represent illegals in this country. jason: i m not quite a lot you get away with that. there s difference between immigrants and illegal americans. tom homan explained the difference. low, immigrants are here legally. illegal aliens are here illegally. the comment allen made about the family. illegal immigration has been a political issue for decades. it s emotional. fact: about two h
clip of a candidate for the united states senate. the person running against ted cruz. sorry. okay, we don t have this clip. you have a lot of people saying hey, we should decriminalize this. essentially open borders. we want to abolish i.c.e. allen, where do you stand on t those issues? the abolish i.c.e. movement as well as decriminalization of immigration are separate issues and i want to be very clear..c earlier saying his immigration status had nothing to do with the crime and what happened in that occurrence. what is not important jason: i m going to keep arguing. allen, i m not going to let you get away with that. i m going to keep arguing. if he didn t come here illegally, then he wouldn t have committed this crime. and you think that s a philosophy? i think it s a fact. it s a fallacy of causation. you are saying that because he was illegal, he committed the crime. not the case. jason: allen, if somebody breaks into your home and then
it is not relevant. what is relevant is the individual and those individual actions, which have been discussed.e jason: his actions of coming here illegally ultimately led to her being killed by thise person. that is the allegation. we will see if it s true, buts that s the allegation. tom, you have dedicated it s a fallacy of causation. he was here for four years with no problem. jason: we don t know that yet. hold on. i want to bring in tom. tom spent a lifetime in law enforcement protecting us i and getting rid of some of the most nefarious criminals out there. tom, what is your take on this? i think my friend allen is way wrong on this and you are f right. fact: he was in the country illegally. fact: if he wasn t here, this girl would be alive today. it s just a fact of the case. it s not a philosophy. this girl is dead today because he killed her and he was here illegally. if he hadn t been here, if we had a border wall and real border enforcement, maybe he wouldn t have